Another Pale Gull

A day off so decided on a trip over to Stubber's Green in the West Midlands. On the way i called into Sandbach to see if the Ibis was performing in the sun? It wasn't.
Just over 4 hours was spent at Stubber's Green with gulls coming and going all the time but no Caspian today. The sub-adult Iceland Gull was present all afternoon, is it a 3w/4cy bird? Not sure.

Also present for most of the afternoon was this pale 1w Herring type Gull. A rather robust bird which had a few 2nd generation scapulars coming through. A strikingly obvious bird with white inner primaries and dark ghosting to the tips. Is it a hybrid? Just a pale Herring Gull? Or something else? Kumlien's maybe? Gull's, don't you just love em.